blossom, your awesome podcast episode number 62 today on the show, comedian brad Goss is here with us and let me tell you, he is hilarious, brad refers to himself as a dark hue. He is an author with more than 100 books in print. He has more than a million followers on Tiktok. He is going to be sharing with us the wisdom of laughter and how to not take life so seriously. I am so honored and delighted to have brad here with us. I'm sure he's going to have a lot of jokes and some incredible insights for us all brad. Thank you so much for being here. Welcome to the show. Thanks for having me too. Oh, I am so excited to have you and get into your story. So you are a comedian. You're an author. Let's get into this, Give us a little bit of the background and how you got to this point, you have a million followers on Tiktok, you've got this dry sense of humor, Tell us about this.
That that's how I was born in the sense of humor was there, you know, baked in um, and dry and, and a little off color, a little, a little off putting a little offensive, a little bit, drop your fork at the dinner party. Um, and um, uh, you know, most of my life, I just used it, you know, to make my friends and family laugh and the people who know me get my humor that people who don't get shocked and um uh three years ago decided to change careers and become a comedian. So um, I, you know, I've always had it in the back of my mind. I think I thought about it when I was a kid, but um, I, I like money So I didn't want to go through the starving artist phase of, of, you know, being a stand up comic in like the 90s or something like that when I was younger. So I just, you know, build businesses and sold them and made made money for myself and made enough money that I could have a little cushion and you know, so you know, do this without, without worrying about where my paycheck was gonna come from or if some club was gonna pay me $50 for an hour of work or whatever.
Um, and uh, so when I started doing it, I started publishing dark humor books because I knew how to do that. Um, and I knew that that could, you know, if done right, that could carry me financially. Um, and so, um, I mean I stumbled into it, but once I figured it out, I sort of built a formula and repeated it. And so in the last three years I've published 100 and 200 102 dark humor Children's books, wow, that is phenomenal now. So you came out cracking jokes, but let's talk about this. So you are as a child, I mean are people telling you God you're funny or people are laughing. I mean, how did this from your earliest memory? You're just a funny guy. Yeah, I spent a lot of time in the office in school, you know, getting in trouble. You know, I knew all the principles of every one of my schools, you know, they, we knew each other well, had long, long chats.
Um, and you know, I was always the, you know, quote unquote class clown, the bad kid that, you know, did it for everyone's benefit, made the class laugh and didn't care that it cost me a detention. Didn't care that it cost me a suspension. Didn't care that a letter went home to mom, you know, it was the laugh was was better. Okay, So let me ask you brad because I know, you know, a lot of times we kind of have these layers and things come up for us or someone who was maybe bullied becomes the class clown or has some sort of insecurity and kind of going deep here with you now. But I mean, did you have a happy normal childhood and this is really just how you turned out? I mean, not that it's a bad thing, it's I think it's a wonderful thing, right? But I think most, I think most comedians learn how to make people laugh so they don't get beat up. I think that's pretty common. So I think you're you think you're touching on the right thing. I was bullied as a kid. Um, But only to a point I was bullied, um, you know, from from age sort of 5-6 up until I was 11 And then um, when I was 11, when I was 12 years old, I was six ft 4.
So you know, once, once I reached that height, there was, you know, and I've only grown an interest since then, I haven't shrunk yet, so thankfully I'm 65 now, I, the bullying just stopped magically just stopped, you know, nobody wanted to bully the kid that was 64 when nobody else was that big and I was a big boy, like not just a skinny 64, I was a big guy and so I must, I must have had a growth spurt, you know, over a year and I went from bullied kid to, you know, not bullied. Um, and then from that age on, I had never experienced any bullying but before that I did and that's kind of where the humor came from. Uh, you know, I couldn't, I couldn't fight, but I could make you laugh and now was a part of it like an act of rebellion, like Yeah, of course. Yeah, Yeah, absolutely. Um and because I, you know, I think I struggled to cope with public school as, as a kid because I like to tell myself because I was too smart for the place, but the reality is I just couldn't handle the grind and the routine, I'm not a routine person.
Um So I um I struggled with it and so I made it entertaining to cope okay. And now, you know, as far as the, the books, so how did you, you said this came up for you? How did that come up for you? And other questions around that? Yeah. Um so I owned a, I used to own a clip art company called Vector Toons graphics, cartoon company that sells like stock cartoon images you can use on your website and your marketing or whatever. And um one day I wrote and I made up like a fun little facebook ad and it was it was a joke, it was a Children's book that would never have seen the light of day and I posted it on facebook and on the page, vector tunes and I said you could do anything with vector tunes, even make Children's books. And you know, it was like, you know when dad went away or something like that, you know, that he was carrying his bags at the door um and it, you know, it got a lot of play and so I made another one and it got a lot of play and I made another one and then um and then I made up, I ended up spending an entire weekend, I'm a graphic designer by sort of nature, so I knew how to do this really easily and I made 100 book covers in a weekend.
This was like three years ago, literally three years ago, like this week, um and uh started sharing them with people and I made a book called Daddy drinks and 99 other Children's books that never made it. And it was just a book of covers, of ideas of Children's books that you know, I thought were funny, my daddy hit Mommy and you know, all this kind of stuff. And um that book didn't really do that well. I published it, it didn't really do that well. I had high hopes of course, every book I published, I think it's gonna be the, you know, the big one. Um I had high hopes for it, It didn't do that well. And a couple months later I was on Tiktok and I was, you know, trying to build up this comedy profile and Tiktok and was making a bunch of bad jokes that weren't really, you know, connecting. And then one day I said, um my name is brad Goss, I write books for Children, but my publisher keeps rejecting them. And then I would show one of the covers of the books and the first time I did that, the book, the book title was why Daddy hits Mommy a kid's guide to understanding alcohol is and that video got a million views or a million and a half views and I started reading the comments because you learn a lot from what people ask you for.
And in the comments, people were saying, why can't you read this book to us? Read it to us? I hadn't written it, it was just a cover. So I remember you know it kind of hitting me like I need to write this. So I wrote it just like you know, dr Seuss poems style, you know, page by page kind of book. And then I just held up the cover and I had the print out of the of the words on the back and I read it and and that got like a million views and then the audience, you know, the comments were why can't we see the pictures? And that's when it clicked like I needed to make this a real book, you're looking for a real book here and I haven't done it, I made a joke, you want a thing, you want a product and I'm an idiot if I don't make that product for you. So I made that book, you know, in a few days, you know using clip art, I made this book and I published it and then I read it on Tiktok and then at the end I said you know why Daddy hit mommy is available on amazon. So boom, millions more views, you know, hundreds of book sales.
And then I was like, okay, this is the formula. So every time after that I would make the book, publish it, order a copy. Then you got to see it. Once I could say to you, it was available on amazon. So I just, I just shifted the whole, the whole thing from, you know, okay, show them the cover to show them the whole book. Read them the whole book and give them something, you know, that they can go get if they want it. Um and, and that became the entire model, wow, okay, So do you believe in fate? Because this seems so faded to me. Things like this don't just happen right where it kind of like you were lead. Yeah, I don't know if I believe in faith, I don't know if I don't believe in it, but I like, I, I um I feel like this was meant to happen at some point in my life. I feel like I'm like there's never been a time where I where I said to myself, I'm doing exactly what I want to do, exactly what I should be doing and like, and loving it to a point where there's zero, like every business I've ever had, I've always kind of questions, this is what I really want to do.
I really want to do this for another 10 years. Do I really want, you know? But for this like, now that I do this, there's there's zero, there's zero voice in the back of my head questioning what I'm doing, There's, there's zero doubt that this is the right thing, you know what I mean? It's it's a it's a it's like, there's never been a time in my life where I felt more aligned with what I do, how I make my money and what I what I how I spend my days, wow, I love that brad now. So there's this part of you, like, you, you know, earlier, you said you always wanted to be a comedian, so you were doing all these other things for work, but really, so, so was it fear? Was it insecurity? What, you know, I get there was this idea of, okay, the fear of money or, you know, the struggling artist fear, was that really what you think, just kind of had kept you from? Yeah, I mean, you know, I love money. So I, you know, and and had I started my comedy career 10 years earlier, 20 years earlier, 30 years earlier, I'm 48 in the house.
If I started it when I was 18, I would have struggled hard, probably wouldn't have made it. Um you know, that that was the time in the nineties, that was a time when stand up was kind of dying off. Um and, you know, it it died for for a good sort of, 10 years between, you know, 1994 and 2004, there's not a lot of stand up, you know, before that you could find stand up on all the channels, you know, that evening at the improv was on like all these, you can find the stand up comedy show on every channel and then there was like a 10 year period where it just died, just didn't happen. And you know, was still out there. But it was rare. And I remember, you know, I would like, I loved comedy. So I, whenever I traveled, I would always look for a stand up show and they were like, getting harder to find. And um, for me, the, there had to be a way to do it where I could actually get paid and, and it didn't have to be like, hey, brad, here's a million dollars start doing stand up. It just had to be like, okay, I could start today and I could figure out how to make a dollar a day today and tomorrow I'll figure out how to make another dollar a day and at some point I'll be profitable.
It wasn't something huge windfall of cash, but it was enough for me to see a path for me to be able to project out. Yeah, there's money here. Like, I don't want to be one of those people who's like, I do it for the art and I love to make the people laugh and I don't care if I don't get paid. No, I want to be paid. I want my money, you know, bring the check and it better clear, you know what I mean? That's how, that's how I see things and so so when I did this, it was like, okay I can, this is a path, right? I can publish these books. And it was always in like a book when I, when I finished book one, I was already thinking 100 books, you know, that's, that's here we are three years later, 100 books. I'm now I'm thinking 1000 books and it's like, you know, there's, there's a uh like I can see the path right? And and and with 100 books I'm profitable with 100 books. I pay my pay my bills, you know, I support my family and I like it. So there's not, you know, there there the money was always clear and if it wasn't going to be clear, I wasn't going to do it and it's not, it wasn't even about fear or safety, it's about comfort.
Like I just like nice things and I know that sounds horrible but like I don't camp, you know what I mean? I stay in five star hotels. I don't, I'm just not a, I'm not a rough and it kind of a person and I know a lot of like I meet a lot of comics because I do the stand up open mic circuit in Toronto and I meet a lot of comics who are hungry and I don't want to be hungry Right. Right? So now you know something you said here you said I'm I'm older now and have this been you know 10 or 15, 20 years ago, is that are you saying that because comedy, that whole scene has changed or just because of what you this kind of level of deeper understanding awareness, maturity, stick to itiveness that you might be bringing to it now. I think it's both. But I think um you know, 30 years ago I couldn't self publish my books right, 30 years ago I couldn't, the systems weren't in place. The platforms weren't there, There was no Tiktok, there was no Youtube.
There was no, you know, amazon self publishing, there was no audible, there was no Spotify. So all these all this distribution used to belong to the, to the fat guys in the suits with the cigars that decided they were the gatekeepers, they decided who got to publish what, who got to, who got to distribute what to the world. And that's changed now. Now now we get to do that, anybody, any, anybody like, you know, a homeless person can walk into the Apple store and and sit at an imac for the rest of the day and write a book and publish it for free. You know, I mean, it's like it's it's it's democratized to that point. So because all those things are there, that makes it easy for me to actually monetize what I do, right? And that is so awesome and now you know, for you was there kind of, I know you were kind of doing this other stuff for money, but you always had this kind of burning desire, right, because that deeper fulfillment, you're making money, but there was something missing because this is really where your heart and passion is not really, you know, when, when, when, when, when you're making a lot of money for me anyway, when I make a lot of money, I don't worry about other things I don't think about, you know, I might say to myself, is this the thing I want to do, but if the money is coming in, you know what I mean?
It's like, it's like winning the powerball and having a whole bunch of money and saying, is this the life I wanted, Well you got it, you know what I mean, like own it like, you know, so so I I never, you know, I never had this like burning desire to do something else, it wasn't always there, like it went, you know, it was easy to squash with a stack of money just goes away. So um you know, and I was quite happy, you know, doing what I was doing until I wasn't until until you know, I realized and it was probably a midlife crisis or something that made me kind of revisit that idea, so there was a good period of time where it just wasn't a thought, it was just like this is what I do and and you were fine with it but then so talk to us about that moment where you have that you know that ah ha that awakening of weight, I want to do this other thing. It was I remember it clearly, it was 2012, I was I was successful in my business and I was speaking at a lot of conferences about what I was doing because a lot of people wanted to know kind of what you know what about me and you know how I did what I did and so I went to a lot, I flew to a lot of events they would you know fly me in to speak you know to their audience and I would hang out there for the weekend or whatever and I was good at the talking part but I wasn't I wasn't really the greatest that making people laugh without it being almost too crass without being too weird.
So you know if you if you're at some business conference in Washington D. C. And there's 500 people in the room, they're not gonna like your poop jokes so you kinda gotta be a bit more so I was like okay I gotta I need to be I wanna I wanna land jokes, I want them to laugh, I wanna have fun with this. So I I live in Toronto, I took a stand up comedy class at second city and that's when it really hit me was that this is, this could be a thing. And then I remember they, at the end of the class to make you do a five minute open mic at a, at a club. It was the first time in my life I got up on a stage and I didn't have to give you any information, I didn't have to share anything with you. There were no nuggets for you to walk away with, you know, and that's what I did before I drop nuggets, I would come up and tell you great things and you would leave and people would come up to me afterwards and I learned so much and I would feel great and that was that, but this, now I have five minutes of time on this stage and my only job is to make you laugh as much as possible with giving you zero information.
And uh when it was like, it was, it was a shift in my head and then when I did it, I remember thinking, wow, that was like, I did it and I made people laugh and I was like, this is amazing, like that is, I could just do that. Like, I don't have to drop the nuggets and that's kind of when it hit me, it was like, this is what I want to do, that was, you know, 2012 2013 and um, you know, I, it was still, that was, there was still a time then when I couldn't, you know, I was like, okay, I want to do this. And so I started contacting the comedy clubs, can I, you know, do you have any open mic slots available? Zero? They gave me zero. They said nothing. You know, I never heard back from anybody. I badgered the comedy club producers and tried to get on, on stage is zero, But, but that's when the seed was planted, that's kind of when I decided that's what I wanted to do and they didn't want me because I was nobody, I was just some guy who graduated second city, like a lot of people do and I didn't have an audience, I didn't have a platform, I can't bring anybody into your club, nobody's coming cause I'm here.
So they don't write, you don't respond to you, they don't even care. And so I realized I wanted to do this, but you know, I thought I had to kind of do it my own way. And, and it didn't happen overnight. I sort of had to unwind a lot of things, you know, sell off some of my business is free up some of my time that took a few years to make happen. And then, Um, it was like 2019 when I sort of decided to go full in and and just do this was right before the pandemic. I remember, um you know, it was, it was probably six months before everybody got locked down? Wow, your timing is impeccable. That's pretty perfect timing, right? That is awesome. So now, you know, I love this idea of rejection and want to know how that did that. Was there a point where you were kind of like, okay, well this sucks and maybe I shouldn't be trying to do this or did that feel you? Um, it, I would say it probably equally took wind out of my sails and fueled me.
Um, because, because at the time I didn't see the past, I didn't see, I knew that there would be a way to do it without other clubs. Um, and like still today, I have trouble getting spots at comedy clubs, like, you know, they don't care that you're on Tiktok, they don't care that you have 100 K subs on Youtube, they don't care, you know what I mean? So I do some open mics, but it's still hard to get that seven minute slot, you know, at a comedy club. So, but I think I realized then that, okay, this wasn't the path, I knew there was a path, but I knew that wasn't the path. So, so I just kind of let shell for a little while, while I sorted other things out and then I realized, okay, the path is using all of these tools, all of these, all the tools that are free for us right now. I mean, we've never lived in a more amazing time, right? You know, I'm always shocked when people say to me, are you going to put me in a Youtube video? And I think to myself, anybody can put themselves in a Youtube video. It's not some, there's, there's no magic here. Like anybody can make one of these videos, anybody can make a Tiktok, anybody can make an instagram reel.
And so, you know, the, the tools became so easy, you know, to, to, to make it happen without all the gatekeepers, without all the phone calls because I'm a horrible, like I could have never been in sales because, and I'm a good salesperson, but, but I'm terrible at sales, which means if I, if I can get you in a room and pitch you, I will sell you. But, but if I have to chase you and get and try to get you on the phone, I will fail every time because if I, if I leave you a voicemail or I send you a message on instagram and I ask you if I can do a seven minute, you know, uh, stand up in your club and I see that you read that message and you never respond to me, our relationship is over. You're dead to me like that's just how I see the, like, I don't wanna, I don't, I don't want to chase people, I don't wanna be that guy who's like chasing you. Hey, just checking in wanna touch base, see how things are going. It's, it's been three days, right?
Um, Now brad, what is it your advice to younger people? Like what, what have you learned? Well, that's a, that's a pretty broad question. I mean, my advice to younger people is um, take drugs and drop out of school. Um I don't, I don't know. I mean, you know, I guess like published the thing, you know, make the thing. Everybody has like, everybody has not everybody. Some people have a thing in the back of their mind, you know, they want to do, but they're afraid of the ridicule they're gonna get from their friends and family and the people they went to college with or whatever. Um You need to do that thing now because it's probably not the thing. It's in the back of your head. You think it's the thing and it may not be the thing, but it will clear space for the other thing. I know that sounds really weird, but it does right? It's like you have an idea that's probably really bad that you think is awesome that you think your friends are gonna laugh at you for guess what they are, but you still need to make it Right.
Like, do you know, I'm a 48 year old man, I'm gonna be 49 in a few months. Do you know how many of my friends think it's absolutely ridiculous that their daughters know who I am, because they're on Tiktok, and they're like, you know, they think I'm correct. They think I'm an idiot, right? So you have to not care what those people think, or at least throw that to throw that out and you can care, but at least minimize it somehow. And then you got to just keep making those things. And, and then every idea, like, the only way to have room for new ideas is to do the things that you haven't done yet. So, you know, the faster you do that, the faster you're gonna find what you love, you're gonna find your awesome, right? And now, as far as your ideas, your creative ideas, like, what are you doing? Or what are you tapping into? Where does this stuff is, it's just, you're just this creative genius. Is it all just from within? Are you getting inspiration from outside of yourself?
Um, I think, I think it all comes from outside and I think the inspiration comes from outside, but I think you get, I think there's a point and it happened to me, you know, maybe maybe a year ago where you just become better in tune with what's funny, You just kind of, you see things outside of you and you say to yourself, oh my God, there's a joke and I quickly write it down, you know, that's like 90% of this business is writing down the stupid joke that comes to your head while you're in the car, while you're watching something else, while the news is on, while whatever happens and a lot of it is um, you know, part of it is, I'm on, I'm on a young person's platform, right? I'm 48 years old, I'm on this platform, that's, you know, the majority of the audience is 13-24. And so they have, they say things that I don't know, I don't know what they're saying. They will say words to me and I'll be like, now I have to look that up, right?
I don't know, I didn't know what a thirst trap was, right? So I had to go to urban dictionary and I was like, oh, now I know what. Now, once I found out what it was like, okay, I see this all the time, I know what the first trap is. So then I, so, so if I had to learn something as an old man on Tiktok, I heard somebody else say then I'm gonna write a book about that because I don't know what that is. And I bet you, I'm not the only one. So a lot of the time it's like, I'll hear somebody say something like, you know, some kids said simp to me one time and one of my live streams and like, I don't know what that is. I have to look at now, give me a minute and then I'm like, I get my phone and I'm like simp, you know, and I googled it and oh, now I know what that is. So then the next day I wrote Daddy's a simp right? So like, you know, so some of it comes from outside, some of it comes from people educating me. I don't know, all the slang, you know, like, you know, but I learned it quickly and then I, and then, you know, I kind of have fun with it because kids are always like this old guy saying stuff that we say and it's weird, right?
But like I still say it, but so a lot of it's just like I had to learn something and if I had to learn something, someone else is gonna learn it with me, I'm gonna write a book about it. And then other times it's like, you know, stupid things will come up. Like I remember one night we were watching, you know, I live in Canada and we were watching the news one night and we had this trucker convoy protest a few months ago and you know, our capital city was filled with these, you know, mass anti maskers and the, you know, and the truckers and the flags and and then I remember just sitting there and they were showing our, we have our FBI is the Royal Canadian Mounted police, you're you're in the US, right? Yeah, so our FBI is called the RCMP the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and they actually were like, they used to ride horses and there still are some on horses and um, they had a whole bunch of cops on horses and, and, and it was right around the time, there was a lot of, there's a lot of, you know, police racism stuff going on in the media.
So kind of all that's floating around in my head and then I'm watching these police horses manage this crowd and then it just hit me, I'm gonna write, I'm gonna write a book about a racist police force, right? And so, you know, like this and, and no matter how ridiculous they are, I write, I write the idea down. I have a whole, You know, uh, file on my phone full of ideas and 99% of them get done. Like, you know, they quickly become real. That is awesome. I love that. Now, tell me, what about humor? Like you just have this kind of not calling you immature but child, well, you know, there and there's something to be said for that and it's not, I'm being facetious here, but this kind of child, like, you know, laugh it off, not taking things so seriously. I'm sure you're kind of like that throughout the day. Right? So what do you like?
I think that's so awesome because so many people just take life too seriously. What has it done for you to be kind of, you know, take things with a grain of salt, laugh it off. I'm a happy person. So it's done that for me. You know, you hear about these comedians that are like, you know, depressed and, and pouring up, I'm not that person. I'm, you know, I mean, I have a dark side, otherwise I wouldn't do dark humor, but the dark side doesn't come from my own. It may come from some pain, but it doesn't come from like this ongoing depression or like this, you know, like, you know, I don't have that part of me. Um, at least, and if I do, I, I don't know it, if it's there, I don't even know it's there, you know what I mean? And so, um, so for for me it's just made me happy because the more I can be me, the more I can, you know, joke about me and joke about things that I like to joke about and I can do it in a place where nobody's gonna make me feel ashamed for doing it, then I'm happy.
And of course I'm on the internet, so people go out of their way to make you feel ashamed for everything you do. Um, you know, so, you know, and, and of course, I mean, I can definitely get depressed if I read my youtube comments because um, you know, I think there's a lot of people on there that think that if they troll Tiktok enough, it'll fix their relationship with their dad. Um, but it doesn't right. And now, so, you know, I'm so fascinated with the psychology of someone like you who the dark humor, you know, and getting people to laugh at some of the stuff I sometimes laugh at. They're not sometimes, but a lot will laugh at. You know, I can see the humor in even the darkest things. So, um, what is that like? Does it validate some part of you? Does it give you some sense of confidence when you know, those jokes are affirmed with the laughter? I mean, what is that like on a deeper level? Yeah, I love it when people laugh at the joke. Um, but the jokes are for me, they make me laugh, you know, and um, you know, obviously I wouldn't be doing it if nobody else was laughing.
You know, I wouldn't still be made, I wouldn't, I wouldn't have made two books if nobody left. Um, but, but I, you know, I do love that feeling of, you know, sort of finding the people who love that humor. Um, and I find that the more you're okay with it, like, and you sort of see it happening right, where you see people grieving, you know, some people lose someone very important to them. Um, you know, a good friend of mine has a, has a podcast called the, that death podcast, I think it's called. And uh Tani is her name, I forget she anyway, she's a show on Tiktok and she does, she lost her husband when she was really young and she does a whole podcast about grieving but using humor to cope with grief. And I think that what happens is you find these people who go through these traumatic experiences and they start using humor and then people who haven't gone through those traumatic experiences shame them for using the humor to cope with the darkness.
And you know, to me that's like, like I get a lot of people you know, who who buy my stuff follow me and they'll reach out to me and they'll say I'm grieving the loss of my wife, my husband, my child. And your humor is the only humor that I like right now. And, and you know, and like, so so I get this validation from people who are going through some stuff. And then the only people who don't like it are the people who aren't going through some stuff. You know what I mean? It's like they get offended on everyone else's behalf, but they're really not, they have nothing to be mad about because you know, if you like, there is just, I mean there's of course there's always gonna be a small number of people who are like, you can't joke about the thing that happened to me or whatever, but that's actually a really small minority, most people who go through negative things appreciate humor in that time. Um so I don't know for me it's like The great thing about the Internet is you can you can be terrible to 90% of the people on the Internet, but if 10% of the people love what you're doing, you will build a brand an audience, they will carry you through life, you know, and forget about those other people.
Um and that and that's me. You know, I know there are people who I know because they tell me every day there are people who hate me and that's cool. I have room for you because I can't have like you can't be mediocre. You can't please everybody, right? Politicians have tried for decades and centuries. They have not been able to make it work. You can't please everyone. You just have to find your peeps, right? And please those people and keep doing it. And sometimes you'll grab a few new ones. You know, every time you attack a new subject. But um you know, even my audience right, will sometimes say to me this one crossed the line. This one, you know, you can't not this one not this topic. My dad hit my mom. You can't talk about that. I guess we found your line, but we didn't find the line now. So what life advice do you have for people or what is that tip for people who just take things too seriously?
I mean how can we and not me, you know, but how can those people kind of take a load off drugs. I mean you know I mean I'm joking and I'm serious all at the same time. I think some people need drugs. Um you know whether it's whether it's go to the doctor and get some drugs, you know like legit or whether it's go to the alley and get some drugs village it, you know, I think some people need drugs but really I really do, I really do. Um And I think um I think I think it's a crutch to help you give less folks, you know what I mean? Like I think at the end of the day it's like you need some people need that crutch, whether it's antidepressants, whether it's you know a little bit of the reefer, you know whatever. You know you gotta go do ayahuasca in the jungle because you've got some ship to deal with, deal with your ship. You know what I mean? Like go do the ayahuasca, go do the thing if you like if you find yourself, you know what I mean?
Like screaming about little things or losing your mind because the grocery store doesn't have that sale item you drove there for and you're like let me speak to the manager like just let it go, you're you're you know you're an american at whole foods and lululemon pants you have nothing to be upset about. You know, and, and, and so I think like for me, like, I think it's, it's like I've, I've, I've lived an interesting life, I've had some weird times in my life and some of those times that have been broke and so you know, I know what it's like to struggle, I know what it's like to suffer and you don't have to like even then I didn't take life too seriously. So, so I think it's just, I think it's, it's like, it's like confidence, right? Some things you gotta fake, you can't just, some people can't just have confidence, but it's but confidence is a funny thing when you pretend to have confidence long enough people treat you differently and you start to see the positive benefit of being a confident person and then all of a sudden you just find yourself one day confident, you don't even realize it happened, but you pretended it long enough.
It's like, you know, I hate when people say fake it till you make it, but confidence is like one of the few places that happens, happiness is another place where that happens. You pretend to be happy long enough and I'm not talking about like I'm happy, I'm talking about like, you know, pretend like let it go more and more and you will end up letting it go more and more so I mean I, you know, I don't live in a world with people who take life too seriously. Nobody in my circle does um because I don't have room for those people, like I, you know, I have cut people out of my life because they take their lives too seriously and they make mine miserable, you know, I had a I had a friend, I was the best man at his wedding And he would come over to my house and he would tell me, you know, 16 different customer service stories where he was yelling at somebody and when he left my house, I felt smaller and heavier all at the same time, and I remember thinking this person's toxic, you know, I love him, I've known him since I was since I was, you know, a teenager and and I I feel bad cutting him out of my life, but I need to for my own health, I cut them out um you know, I think that's important.
I think if you have people in your life that are negatively affecting you, you got to cut them out, you know, and that's the psychiatrists love to tell you to cut those people out of your life, and I think they're right, you know, I think um if someone's having a negative impact, they gotta go, I love that, that is great advice. And now brad. I mean, in so, first of all, I want to just say you have been so awesome and so insightful, and I loved picking your brain hair and getting this kind of other side of you, right, that people probably don't see much because you're this whole other person out there, right? Yeah. So do you, I mean, do you have moments of like, oh wait, I'm being too, I need to be a little more serious or it's just, yeah. Yeah. I love that. I love your authenticity. You know, so that is awesome. So brad.
I just want to thank you so much for your time today. Being here. You're awesome insights. And in closing what is your message Or if there were one message, your hope for the world. Words of wisdom. What would you like to leave us with? I thought we were all going to die of Covid. I thought we'd all be gone by now. Honestly, I was okay with it. So I don't know if I have hopes for the world. I don't know. That's a weird question to ask me. I feel like, um, you know, we're, I think we're ready to go with the dinosaurs. I think, I think humans are done. I think we don't know it yet, but I think we're done. That's my message for the world. We're probably done. So just enjoy what's left because you know, nature tried to kill us with Covid and failed. There's gonna be another thing and it may work might be an asteroid. So just, you know, don't like if you found out there was an asteroid coming in an hour, I bet you in the back of your mind like I wish I had made that phone call.
Make the phone call. You know, do the thing. Mhm. Like I don't know. I feel like I you know, I could go to bed tonight and not wake up tomorrow. That happens to a lot of people. So get your affairs in order. I love that. That was such an awesome closing message. I love it. Thank you so much brad you. Thank you. Thank you. Mhm. Yeah.