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Coaches Corner: Principles are few, methods are many

by Shaun Kober
July 19th 2021
00:32:05
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I've had so many great conversations with friends and colleagues about what we see happening in the fitness industry, and thought to myself, "I wish we would have recorded that."  More

what does it mean to live life to the fullest train to your potential and perform at your best, Leave nothing on the table. That's a non negotiable is that I strive to be better every day because if I'm not on top of my game, how is anybody else gonna follow me down the road? Keep demanding more of yourself to live up to that potential and to stay hungry is progress? You know, when I look at the word training, I think of steps, baby steps to get somewhere that you want to be and that is basically your life journey. That's a mindset in itself man, It's like, it's not just about, I know that for you, a lot of that's about the physical, but we're constantly in training, whether it's growing our skill sets, whether it's growing up physical bodies, whether it's growing our relationships, whatever and all of that is a training ground. And that kind of goes back to the mindset that we just talked about. You underestimate yourself and you don't even start. But then once you start, you often surpass what you thought you could do perform at your best mate. That's, that's sort of what life is all about. You don't have the knowledge and have the fitness, the healthy ambition and drive that no matter what comes along.

When that next phone call comes, I can just say yes, I don't have to worry, just go and do it. You know what is up guys, welcome to this episode of the live transform podcast, I'm your host Sean Cobra and joining me in one of these coaches corner episodes is my man, john Latakia or J lt of Storm Force fitness over in Guernsey. How are you brother? Welcome back to the podcast. Yeah, it does seem like a long time um plenty of things to catch up on mate. Um what we're going to talk about today, we're just gonna have a general conversation man, we spoke a little bit off line about what we're going to talk about um and it's primarily going to be around misconceptions that people have when they're first starting out on their fitness journey or they're already, you know, a couple of years down that path of their fitness journey, but they're not getting the results that they want um they're kind of like sitting on the hamster wheel and they don't know where to go from here. So um for any new listeners, just give them a very brief introduction to yourself, what you're doing um and what we're doing on this episode.

Yeah, so it's been a very long journey, but basically over the last 15 years I've gone from being a personal trainer and a commercial jim all the way through coaching big fitness councils, working obviously in Thailand for a little bit after my gym building broke. So yeah, I've been through a lot of different things and seen pretty much every angle of the fitness industry, whether it is people coming into, we're talking about people coming into this game of fitness, people who are in it, they made it that typical beginning progress and now they've got stuck seeing like yourself kind of like the athletes side and the team side and obviously each part of this journey has kind of shown me that there's obviously specifics to each part of that journey, but a lot of people are, we're all making the same mistakes. There's a lot of things that, particularly in the mindset level that are tripping people up. I've seen it in one of my friends is she got bronze medal in the olympics and we have the same conversations about how she perceives things when it comes to training.

As people you see coming on fitness holidays, the guys in the UFC. Um and that's kind of what I wanted to talk about today is these perceptions that people have of what is required, what works why things are going wrong and hopefully we can help people whatever whatever stage you guys are listening often. It's just one time thing, you know, if we get through one tiny, it's something like this, this whole world stuff. Yeah, yeah. What the fuck is that noise? Yeah, cool man. Yeah, that's a that's a great topic that we're going to dive into because, you know, as you said, this is one of the reasons why I start the podcast, right, and you've got your own podcast as well. Um and I'm sure, you know, that's one of those reasons why you started that was to get this information out there? Because no matter who you're talking to, whether it's general population, whether it's a fucking elite athlete, like everyone's going through the same things, right? And I've spoken to, you know, numerous professionals in the game in, you know, multiple areas, multiple facets of health and fitness, whether it's training, whether it's nutrition, strengthen conditioning, um you know, rehabilitation, etcetera, etcetera mindset.

Um, and, you know, a lot of the the same themes keep coming up over and over and over again. Like to me it's the principles that are the most important thing. And once you understand those principles, then, you know, you tweak and adjust them to suit every single individual because principles a few but methods are many. Yeah, and this is what you and I we we've had this, we've had people mention this to both of us before, like we are very similar coaches and a lot of the coaches that I get on this podcast, you know, people like you guys like speak the same language and it's because we're all spooking principles, right? We're not those fucking people out there that are just trying to sell you something through a method, right? All the good coaches are talking about principles, Hey, are you getting enough sleep? Are you staying hydrated? Are you getting sunshine? You know, eating the right amount of calories in the right ratios at the right time. You know, are you sending the right signal with your training blah blah blah blah, blah, like healthy organism is an adaptable organism. So we need to fucking make sure that people healthy.

We spoke about it before. Like, you know, we need to get people to the start line before they start like training for performance or training for weight loss or training for a marathon or whatever. Hey, can you get to the fucking start line first? Absolutely. Yeah. I think, you know, you pretty much touched on that first point about the this whole social media thing. It is something that really gets me, man. The stuff I see, they're almost like people are being solved this sort of utopia. You know, you're watching song instead of going, I wish I could, you know, walk 100 m on the hands and do sort of 50 muscle ups and all these. It's like this, it's not even going to be the finish line. A lot of people are never even gonna research stage, but they feel like, right, this is what it's all about. I have to reach this end game, I have to reach what this this guy I've seen on instagram. It's like that's what I have to do. And when I get there, I've reached this point in life where it's what they always say like a door like I'll go through the door. I can shut that door and permanently now in this amazing life. Like like we said before I say to people, they they look at it like money, so I need some money, I'm gonna work super hard for three months.

I'm gonna make loads of money, put it in the bank and it will stay there for when I need it. And it just doesn't work. We need to look at what you said about the principles and how do we build this up? How do we create this, this system, whatever you want to call it, that you're willing to do over and over again and just steadily, steadily, kind of level it up. And unfortunately this we said about the people getting into the game for any of you listening, that just sort of coming into fitness and maybe you might met tiger, you know, done a couple of weeks and that was your introduction, where do I go from here? You know, if you're suddenly thinking right, I'm gonna train, I saw Sean training Petr Yan a tiger training like that do because you know, his training looks exciting, he looks strong, he looks dynamic. If you believe that, you know that that is what you need to do straight away. You're probably never going because I can guarantee you, if you try and training for one day you're gonna you're gonna get you're gonna be so exactly, That's a great point.

Like, you know, for those listening or anyone that's new. Like I've been training PTR since before he made his UFC debut and I think I've had like five of his eight UFC fights and you know, the first couple of fight camps were all about that um general physical preparation, right? Like he was a new dude, I didn't know how he moved. Obviously I saw him in the gym and was like, he's a fucking freak athlete. But I still need to go through my assessments and I still need to build his foundation of his strength, his speed, his power, mobility, stability, endurance, stamina, energy systems, et cetera, et cetera. You know, So the first couple of fight camps are all about that general physical preparation. But then, you know, once I've been working with him for a couple of years, each fight camp, then we start getting more and more specific. Alright, cool. Now he's fighting Jimmie Rivera, this is what we're gonna do here now he's fighting um you're right a favor, that's what we gonna do here. Now. He's fighting josiah Elder. This is what we're gonna do here. We're targeting specific adaptations, but he had that foundation over years and years of training with me plus he had his own foundation from training for a decade or so before that.

So I think that's a great point, man. People look at these flashy instagram exercises and they go, oh well this dude's doing that, he's fucking jacked or he's lean, they've got the body that I want, I'm going to start doing that when it's like, well no, like Do what that person did for 20 years to get to that point to be able to do that and make that thing look good. You know, this is such like, I've seen this so many times and the problem is with the social media again, is the very nature of it is we will, if we hear about something, you watch the UFC, you never heard of pity and okay, wow, this guy's awesome, I'll start following him. So your first experience of him is, you know, this crazy shit, you know, the top level fires all of this. You haven't seen all the stuff that went before and we actually always got, had an argument once at an event I was hosting which was actually more kind of busy, It was like fitness business related and one of the guys, a lot of people, no, I'm not gonna mention things a private conversation, but he said to one of the others, listen, I I respect what you're saying, but the things you're telling us that will grow your business, he said, I know for a fact that isn't how you were doing it 20 years ago when you were starting out in business, you know, it's a classic thing, like what got you to six figures won't get you to seven figures and we'll get you to seven figures won't make you a sort of multi billionaires, it takes different things to get different, two different stages and if you're not willing to do, you know, everybody tries to act like Elon musk right now in order to make money.

Yeah, what he's doing is not going to fit your life, What you need to be doing is turning up to your job, working your way up the ranks and the same thing applies to the fitness. You need to understand the personal complexities of I look at it as like a recipe. You know, you can even let you start looking at fighters, even if you take three different UFC fighters, they want to win the belt. So by the end goal is the same, but you might have one who's got incredible endurance. I can just go like a Duracell bunny for endless hours but actually doesn't have much spent or power is, you could have somebody who's actually wants to super strong the truck, but you do it for 30 seconds Again, even those two guys are both at the top end of the career, but they needed the next ingredient to make their recipe better is different. And I think this is the problem, this social media is becoming this funnel where it's almost like everybody copies or everyone else is saying and it's how do I want up?

How do I impress people? How do I get the likes? It's not what, 99%? It's creating this vacuum bullshit. Yeah, I mean that's, that's what social media is though. It's like this flashy stuff that draws attention because I mean, why do you go on social media? It's for those fucking quick fixes man. Like how much how much information can you get across in like a one minute fucking video bro? So here's the thing I'm not going to show, I'm not going to show fucking peter yard doing trap bar, dead lift and bench presses and pull up for fucking four sets of six. Nobody wants to see that. I Uh huh. Yeah exactly. Yeah. Nobody wants to see that shit man. They want to see like the fucking the sprints, the jumps. The throw is a super aggressive like lactic conditioning work where he's fucking getting beast ID man I think and the you know like it's just you know if you're starting running, if you if you got the wrong shoes on your way to the end of the road, you know, that's what people are doing.

They're putting on a pair of shoes and then wondering why I tried to train my because I saw him, a tiger, tried it for a week break down to rest and then I came back to Tiger and saw one of the other guys and you see someone like yourself training short in great shape. I'll train like him, I'll do the muscle ups, I'll do the gymnastics now. My shoulders matter, I need two weeks off and it's this constant surface because you're trying to put the wrong pair of shoes on and yeah, unless you can accept the basics, then it is just this constant break and restart cycle. Yeah, I love that analogy. Um now for anyone listening that is on this journey and you know, maybe they've been on their journey for a couple of years and they've hit a little bit of a plateau and they don't want don't know where to go from here or someone sitting at home and they're like, you know what I've been thinking about starting or restarting my health and fitness journey, like where do they start? Well, I'm gonna you don't want me doing a shameless plug. I did recently write a book, The secrets are showing up and what I've done there is it's basically three different phases, where the first phase is literally like the sort of minimum of effective habits.

So it is looking at your sleep, it's uh, You know, prepare and say two meals a day. You know, everyone can prepare dinner, prepare their breakfast, lunch, might grab something on the go. It's trying to find that tim Ferriss calls at the minimum effective dose of things that are going to work. So it is, you know, it's the boring stuff, but the stuff nobody wants to hear, like getting enough water and getting to bed at a certain time, backing out in your bedroom. These things don't even sound like fitness at first, but you can not step in a gym and if you do that stuff, you will still still lose weight. You have a shitload more energy and then it's like once those things become habits, then we move on to the next stage. In terms of the exercise. I actually say at the start, I don't even care what you do in the gym. And this sounds stupid coming from a person training and I'm like, I want to see you show up at the gym or go running or go and play tennis whatever you want to do. I want to see you do that three times a week for three or four weeks. Non negotiables. Like you're your most important client like at work when you people have to work like that client, you will never cancel and you will sell your soul, you will run their foot down the street to make the meeting will treat your exercise like that.

Make make the showing up and then after that, you know, we can start talking about your protein and your calories and stuff like that. So it's kind of like just making sure that that compass is pointing in the right direction first because that is the other side of things. You know, this is a goods. I think we might set this on the last podcast about how if that, you know, you're dating the military. Like if the compass is just out one degree. You know, take steps, you're basically on the right part, but take 100 steps, go tank all of a sudden you are miles off and then you've got to start coming all the way back. So sometimes it's, it's not even the physical things, it's, it's the mind and looking at, you know what I'm about to embark on, Is this something that excites me enough to do it three times a week? Is it something that will actually make my life better to start with? Do you understand why training isn't going to make your life better? Because you know that we've spoken about people at different stages that changes as you go along, You know, for my meeting because we're getting old as well.

But you know, something like 20, it's like you just want to put on muscle and get laid. Like if you can understand that you're gonna get in the gym, that's why guys up to like, you know, we talk, I gotta be careful. I say here, but you know, we talk about the classic marriage thing where people, everybody will be hit the gym, They want to look good, They want to get laid. They want to get a boyfriend, girlfriend as soon as they get the girlfriend as soon as they get married all of a sudden, now they don't need to go to the gym in order to find apartments. So again, if you can't find another reason to go, you're not going to do? That's a great, that's a great point. That's that internal validation versus the external validation. Like if you're going to the gym to get laid to look better for the opposite sex or your partner or whatever, like that's not going to be enough to keep you going over and over again consistently for the rest of your life. Like, you need to find a way that is going to make you feel better about yourself. So to tie into what you're just saying is, you know, if someone wants to get started, you need to be aware of where you're at right now.

Yeah, that is as you said, man, like, because it's all well and good to say, hey, there's the finish line over there, that's where I want to go. But if you have no fucking clue where you are right now, like, it doesn't matter what direction you walk, right? Like you need to know where you are first before you can start setting the direction. All right, this is where I am. I, I always do this with my clients, man. Like, I've had a um one of my friends just came back on after probably about 18 months. Um She trained with me in Thailand then she went home did a couple of cycles of online coaching. Um and then like, Covid hit blah blah blah. Um And she recently reached out to me again and we started working together and um, you know, she's like, what do you want me to do? And I was like, what do we do every time I want you to track your food, I want you to, I want you to track your food. I want you to track your sleep. I want you to track your steps. I want you to pay attention to how foods affecting you. I want you to pay attention to your sleep. I want you to pay attention to how much sunshine you're getting throughout the day, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, all I want you to do for the, for the next week, is that okay?

Once you've done that, then we'll start talking about X, Y, Z. Then we'll start adding things in like we're choosing small things that we can start either doing And implementing again. So something I said to her was like, look at when you were at your best, what are those habits that you were doing back then, 18 months ago, two years ago? You know, when you're living your best life and I'm like, you don't need to do all of that stuff again. You just need to prioritize the one thing that you can do consistently for the next couple of weeks and take that win off the box off the list. As you said, man, we spoke about last time, that wind calendar, right? Like you're taking those little winds, did, I drank three liters of water today tick Do that for two weeks. If I've got green ticks sweet now I can add something else. Yeah, if I don't get 14 days of green ticks and I get a couple of exes in their sweet, that's what I'm working on. I'm trying to build consistency and add those winds up because those winds that you add up day after day after day lead into winning the week leading to winning the month leading to winning the year.

And I mean that's, that's the important thing here, right, is like setting yourself up for winds because if you're winning success breeds success, right? And failure also breeds more failure because then you start beating yourself up on this where a lot of people go wrong in my opinion man, as they make this decision, this is where I'm going, I'm going to do everything, They throw the fucking kitchen sink and that's all well and good for two weeks, three weeks, four weeks whilst they've got motivation. But then once life gets in the way and you know, all those small little habits start creeping back in again because they haven't built the foundation, then one thing slips, then the next thing slips, then the next thing slips and then it's like, oh well I've, I've got, I slept in this morning, I didn't go up, but I didn't get up and go for my run. So now my day is ruined. Now I'm gonna eat like shit now I'm gonna not fucking take my steps now, I'm not gonna get sunshine now, I'm not gonna drink enough and it's like this flow on effect man. So I really think you know those those small um small habits done consistently over long periods of time, that's where that's where the magic is bro and trying everything into what I was just going to say, tying everything in man, like that's where that's where the lessons are, bro, you fucking learn the lessons on the journey right?

As you said, so many people like looking at the finish line Dude, I'll tell you right now, I've been in this fucking game for 20 years, that finish line, if you're doing it properly, that finish line is always moving right, you shouldn't be looking to fucking get to the finish line, you should be looking to make your progress towards the finish line, but then you're tweaking and adjusting as you go. Yeah, I think so. Underestimate like people think this, I've seen so many times when people who run marathons and you know, it always takes over your life and Iron Man, whatever it is, you're training hard, you're doing all the things and all you think about is this line and then these people finish the marathon and then it's likely fall off a cliff afterwards, you know, it's like, well I've done that now, I think what, why would I still go to the gym? Why would I still eat healthily and they literally fall back to gain weight over the next month or two? Not. You know, I'm not saying you should. It's quite a good idea to take a couple of weeks and you know, sort of deep over a bit. But the point is like you keep showing up, you keep doing at least, you know, being the gym.

Even if you're doing mobility sessions, you do a little bit of cardio. Like again, I don't really care but keep showing up and keep doing it and then we start working on the details. You know, if you're thinking the first session in the gym, you need to know your exact sets, reps and tempos and exact angles and force vectors. You know what he was talking about? Force vectors on cable machines and stuff. But that's that's important. Yeah. But you know, if you're now, I'm not gonna do biceps because I can't get on the cable machine and do that particular four specter. That's what breaks people down and it's looking and saying, well, how could I show up, how can I get what's the closest thing I can do to the program that's been set and this idea of trying to be perfect from the start that that really is kind of what what screws people up and I think just all that stuff. I think the other thing is thinking about, why have you not started so far? Yeah, because that forces you to look at the excuses you've been making to this point, we were talking about this before, about if we take somebody and say, well, how come you haven't had a personal training or what?

You might have a personal training? I can't afford it. That's their excuse. And then you see them in three months time, How come you're still training? Well now I'm really busy because I was doing the work to start making a shit load of money. Then they're tired because they were so busy and then, so I just feel bad about myself. So I don't want to go in the gym because I've been eating shit all the time and they were eating shit because they were so tired, comfort eating. And it's like you're constantly layering on these excuses and the honest truth is, you will never get your ducks in a row and even if you do it will last about three days and then some other shit's gonna hit the fan and this is why we keep talking about this, just showing up. Like, okay, you have a bad day, okay, it happens, but go to the gym, drink your water, get to bed at nine o'clock, 10 o'clock or whatever it is. Because if we uh before I read this great book at the moment of the comfort crisis and it's how we have become so accustomed to creating comfort in our life that we literally cannot handle discomfort.

So it's almost like as soon as one thing goes wrong, that's it, my life is now dysfunctional. I can't do anything, You know, it's people this week, you know, starting to warm up over here to you being entirely and it's not even that warm, it's like 1890°, but when it's been not now, it's like oh man, it's like it's so warm in here, can we have the doors open? People are going to buy one of these big fans and can you buy this? And can you buy that an air come? And Unlike guys, it's literally like 1890°, like it, it's not hot, it's not humid, but the point is they got used to gyms that are, we'll have it in exactly 17° And you know, I'm used to having exactly this time in the gym so shit now I've only got 30 minutes, I can't do my session, I'm not going to go at all. So listen, I could literally crush you in 15 minutes. You know, there's always a wave and even if you've got 15, 20 minutes go and do something and it keeps, it keeps the routine and then maybe, you know, monday wasn't a great session, but Wednesday we're back on it.

If you don't turn up on monday then you know, you, you know that's why we start deflating a bit last Wednesday friday next monday christmas dude, I always say like it's so much easier to maintain momentum than it is to regain or recreate it. So you know, if shit does happen and of course it's going to be fucking outstanding circumstances where you can't get to the gym or you can't do whatever movement you've decided to do, it doesn't even have to be at the gym, you might decide to play tennis a couple times a week or go for a walk along the esplanade and take the dogs for a walk, play with the kids or whatever. It doesn't matter what it is man, Like find something that you're going to be able to enjoy. That's the first thing man, find something that you're going to be able to enjoy, that you can do consistently, that you can put into your schedule and as you said man, so many people go, well I can't, I don't have an hour to train, so I'm not going to do it at all and it's like, well fuck, just because just because you can't get eight hours sleep doesn't mean you're going to pull an all nighter.

Like it's the same thing with training, right? Still get to the gym, it's part of your routine, right? But as you said, instead of going and smash himself for an hour, do some mobility work, do some breathing work, do some stretch work depending on, you know what's happening is your, is your, are you stressed out because you just lost your job or found out your partners having a fair or whatever, like yeah, like there's gonna be some, there's going to be, you don't want to add stress on top of stress. But the benefits of training is you can adapt your training to either add stress that you can adapt to it or you can use it for de stressing, right? But we just need to be aware of how we're using it because it's a tool man. Yeah joe I think there's two sides to another. The one side is like what we said at first, the social media stuff is making you feel like every session has to be this glorious showpiece where you know, every rep is perfect, I've up my weight of uh I mean sometimes I come in and I'm like how can I not lift this today? But I'll do it, I'll do the best I can. Next session I go back in, I mean as we speak, I'm just taking my fingers but I dislocated my finger randomly decided to play a fun game of netball, which I haven't admitted to too many people.

But yeah, literally, literally a week ago today, my finger was literally our here went colonized. So you got it put back in, there's a fracture in there the next day, someone said to me, what the fuck are you in the gym? And this is exactly the reason was my session great, no, did I do what I was supposed to do? No, but I was, you know, I couldn't hold the barbell probably couldn't bend my finger back, so I was using the safety squad, but I still came my legs, I went on the leg press instead of doing dumbbell lunges. I think we're on the program, even on my rose, I've got one of these things like people coming captain hook. Now, the kind of like the straps with a hook on, I've got one of those because I can still do a workout. You know, it will keep me in the game for a couple of weeks and then I'll accelerate forward rather than just going live shit. You know, people, I fucked my life, I'm not gonna do anything, I'll leave it for two weeks, you know, I probably think get a little bit depressed because I'm not exercising and then I'll be like, I might as well have a few bids, you know, if I'm not exercising, then it doesn't matter if I'm hung over.

You know, now all of a sudden, even someone like myself, I started using muscle, probably putting a bit of body fat, it's gonna be a shit time harder to get back in the gym. You know, this is what happens when you said you can't bank this stuff, okay, So at least if you can keep topping up the account, you're still in the game and then you accelerate and yeah, there's so many of these like success graphs where people say you think success is like that, but it's actually like a squiggle and roundabout backwards and up and down, you know, that's, that's the other thing is that it, what's his name, Martin Seligman, I think his name is a psychiatrist is back in the seventies and he, he coined this phrase of learned helplessness. You know, it's like the more times you allow yourself to not show up and to not fail, you convince yourself that you cannot control your life, you convince yourself that it's the weather is too hot, you know, I haven't got enough money, I'm too tired, You know, I'm not capable, I'm maybe a school, you were the fat kid in the class, you know, I hate to put it like that, but sometimes it's true, but even if that's the case, it doesn't matter anymore.

Like that stuff doesn't stop you getting in the gym now and I think that takes a lot of soldiers and it takes time to sit down and say, what excuses am I making right now? What do I believe are the reasons for me not showing up and then explore those things go well, was that ever true in the first place and you know, is it still true now? And sometimes if you're brutally honest with yourself or you even, you know, do this with a friend, you know, get someone to give you their sort of non emotional opinion on it and you start to see things very, very differently and sometimes that alone can be so much more powerful than spending hours like on teenager and like I said look at all these amazing program and programming options and like we said tempos and set schemes, look at this and just take a look at your life and see where you've convinced yourself that you are helpless and that alone is literally like you know, you can't drive a car fast until you take breaks off and until you're willing to look at your own life in a very harsh way, sometimes you all kind of spinning your wheels Oh man, I am my own harshest critic, like I'm always like analyzing, reviewing everything I'm doing and then I'm like how can I improve that?

I'm in a shitty situation, what have I done to put me here, right, this goes back to what we're talking about before bro is like you know you're talking about these exercise and sets and reps and blah blah blah and it's like people are looking ahead you know, but they don't know where they are right now. The first thing you need to do is be aware of where you are right now and sometimes that means as you said, getting some criticism from some of your someone that you actually care about, whose opinion you know, you can trust who is going to be honest with you. And you know, this is again like your environment is a big part of who you are and how you perceive the world man, because you don't want people that are going to just be fucking yes men and be like, oh no, you're awesome the way you are. Like, I message my mates, I'm like, tell me the fucking truth about this podcast. Tell me about this. Like tell me the things that I need to work on, that you don't like tell me things that you do. Like tell me things you don't like so I can continue improving, right? Like it's that it's feedback man, that is part one of my coaches corner miniseries with john talk of Storm Force Fitness.

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